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		<title>Comment on American Fiction &#8211; Kwajalein Missile Range, Captain Yossarian And Robert Jordan by KaohiWaianae</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2007/10/13/american-fiction-kwajalein-missile-range-captain-yossarian-and-robert-jordan/#comment-16376</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KaohiWaianae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 05:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aloha Vitchek,

How I came to this site needs an explanation.  I was teaching Marshalee children today, and we had a lesson on Hawaiian voyaging from South Pacific to Hawaii over thousand years ago.  It was mainly about how we became navigators and outrigger builders.  I explained to my students that I spent 9 mos. building a double haul, one can view this outrigger at Polynesian Culture Center.  I am a native Hawaiian woman and I did this in memory of the women in my family.  

My introduction to these children begins with my long ago family Mendiola and how they came to Hawaii and never left Hawaii.  Whereas most that came to the islands went back home.  My family have married over time into the Hawaiian race therefore we are mostly Hawaiian today.  With both events in my life, I begin to explain how my grandfather was at Kwajaleing and he made a phone call home.  In speaking to my grandmother he requested that two children be named Kwajalein and Marshal for reasons that he wanted us to remember the nuclear testing that was happening while he was down under.

I later had long conversation for about an hour with their ELL teacher, he is Marshalee.  We discussed many things and a lot of our conversational particulars exist in your commentary.  I hope to meet you some day and have a lengthy conversation about the military and their violent contamination of our people.  Cancer should not be the end--just because we are caring people and always willing to be at peace with ourselves and our god like environment.  One that will escape the minds of the anglo and his need to end mankine on earth.    Mahalo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha Vitchek,</p>
<p>How I came to this site needs an explanation.  I was teaching Marshalee children today, and we had a lesson on Hawaiian voyaging from South Pacific to Hawaii over thousand years ago.  It was mainly about how we became navigators and outrigger builders.  I explained to my students that I spent 9 mos. building a double haul, one can view this outrigger at Polynesian Culture Center.  I am a native Hawaiian woman and I did this in memory of the women in my family.  </p>
<p>My introduction to these children begins with my long ago family Mendiola and how they came to Hawaii and never left Hawaii.  Whereas most that came to the islands went back home.  My family have married over time into the Hawaiian race therefore we are mostly Hawaiian today.  With both events in my life, I begin to explain how my grandfather was at Kwajaleing and he made a phone call home.  In speaking to my grandmother he requested that two children be named Kwajalein and Marshal for reasons that he wanted us to remember the nuclear testing that was happening while he was down under.</p>
<p>I later had long conversation for about an hour with their ELL teacher, he is Marshalee.  We discussed many things and a lot of our conversational particulars exist in your commentary.  I hope to meet you some day and have a lengthy conversation about the military and their violent contamination of our people.  Cancer should not be the end&#8211;just because we are caring people and always willing to be at peace with ourselves and our god like environment.  One that will escape the minds of the anglo and his need to end mankine on earth.    Mahalo</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wizard of the Crow by Ngugi wa Thiong&#8217;o by NDAYITWAYEKO FIDELE</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2008/07/30/wizard-of-the-crow-by-ngugi-wa-thiongo/#comment-16344</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NDAYITWAYEKO FIDELE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 15:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wizard of the crow is a very ineresting book though big.i am writing my dissertation on it and if any criticism about the oppression of the regime and the resistance through the movement for the voice of the people were to be published it would be helpful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wizard of the crow is a very ineresting book though big.i am writing my dissertation on it and if any criticism about the oppression of the regime and the resistance through the movement for the voice of the people were to be published it would be helpful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Art, Literature, and the CIA by 2010: The Year of Enough &#124; thecommonillsbackup</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2010: The Year of Enough &#124; thecommonillsbackup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the Aimee Allisons worked so hard to make sure realities were obscured. Take Katrina vanden Heuvel, daughter of Diplotrash and CIA pioneer William vanden Heuvel, who repeatedly served as the left&#8217;s biggest distractor. In July, writing about WikiLeaks [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Aimee Allisons worked so hard to make sure realities were obscured. Take Katrina vanden Heuvel, daughter of Diplotrash and CIA pioneer William vanden Heuvel, who repeatedly served as the left&#8217;s biggest distractor. In July, writing about WikiLeaks [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Sorrow of War by Bao Ninh by charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charlie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i was a linguist with the 224th Avn Crazy Cats out of Cam Ranh ..
War has become the most insane human endeavor.   Wasteful of life, resources, nature and humanity.  
hope to read this soon ... on the recommendation of another former Crazy Cat]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was a linguist with the 224th Avn Crazy Cats out of Cam Ranh ..<br />
War has become the most insane human endeavor.   Wasteful of life, resources, nature and humanity.<br />
hope to read this soon &#8230; on the recommendation of another former Crazy Cat</p>
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		<title>Comment on Interview with Eduardo Galeano &#8211; by Andre Vltchek by Eduardo Galeano &#171; Ubuntu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eduardo Galeano &#171; Ubuntu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 16:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Interview on A Practical Policy, with Andre Vltchek, 2008. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Iraq War Fiction by Week Resadieu &#171; zunguzungu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Week Resadieu &#171; zunguzungu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 02:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] nice list of the films, tv shows, and books made about the Iraq [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nice list of the films, tv shows, and books made about the Iraq [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anarchist Novel &#8212; Ursula Le Guin&#8217;s The Dispossessed by Ajello</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ajello]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wrote, or rewrote another one.

its called The Free and is set in an anarchist revolution coinciding with the collapse of capitalism and climate chaos.

Its awaiting publicatiin by PM Press
You can read it online HERE.

http://thefreeonline.wordpress.com/

Its brilliant   (though not coz I wrote it)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wrote, or rewrote another one.</p>
<p>its called The Free and is set in an anarchist revolution coinciding with the collapse of capitalism and climate chaos.</p>
<p>Its awaiting publicatiin by PM Press<br />
You can read it online HERE.</p>
<p><a href="http://thefreeonline.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thefreeonline.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>Its brilliant   (though not coz I wrote it)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bright present and future of the novel = Bolano? Not so much by tc</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2010/02/15/bright-present-and-future-of-the-novel-bolano-not-so-much/#comment-15976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[China, socialist? That&#039;s a laugh. Ditto the former Soviet Union. It&#039;s not libertarian socialist, is tyrannical, and trending ever more capitalist (i.e., financial tyranny). 

Socialist Cuba saved itself from capitalist tyranny and exploitation. It&#039;s not flawless by far; nowhere is.

Moreover, the socialist, that is democratic developments in South America recently, especially Venezuela, Bolivia, and Ecuador have helped the people of those countries (and beyond) immensely. 

Meanwhile the US and France and others have combined to crush democracy and &quot;socialism&quot; especially in Haiti, and in many other &quot;third world&quot; countries across the globe.

The socialistic aspects, that is, what there is of democracy in the US, are among the redeeming aspects of the country.

You and I have very different understandings of socialism. Tyrannies sometimes use the good names of socialism and democracy in attempt to cover their own despotism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China, socialist? That&#8217;s a laugh. Ditto the former Soviet Union. It&#8217;s not libertarian socialist, is tyrannical, and trending ever more capitalist (i.e., financial tyranny). </p>
<p>Socialist Cuba saved itself from capitalist tyranny and exploitation. It&#8217;s not flawless by far; nowhere is.</p>
<p>Moreover, the socialist, that is democratic developments in South America recently, especially Venezuela, Bolivia, and Ecuador have helped the people of those countries (and beyond) immensely. </p>
<p>Meanwhile the US and France and others have combined to crush democracy and &#8220;socialism&#8221; especially in Haiti, and in many other &#8220;third world&#8221; countries across the globe.</p>
<p>The socialistic aspects, that is, what there is of democracy in the US, are among the redeeming aspects of the country.</p>
<p>You and I have very different understandings of socialism. Tyrannies sometimes use the good names of socialism and democracy in attempt to cover their own despotism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bright present and future of the novel = Bolano? Not so much by crisismaven</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crisismaven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well the Third World have carefully wrecked themselves with their socialist experiments, China at the forefront: There will be much more hardship soon with a &lt;a href=&quot;http://crisismaven.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/bloom-of-doom-vi-will-china-survive-the-crisis/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;looming Chinese collapse bigger than the Soviet Union&#039;s&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the Third World have carefully wrecked themselves with their socialist experiments, China at the forefront: There will be much more hardship soon with a <a href="http://crisismaven.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/bloom-of-doom-vi-will-china-survive-the-crisis/" rel="nofollow">looming Chinese collapse bigger than the Soviet Union&#8217;s</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anarchist Novel &#8212; Ursula Le Guin&#8217;s The Dispossessed by thefreeorg</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2007/04/05/anarchist-novel-ursula-le-guins-the-dispossessed/#comment-15944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefreeorg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wrote, or rewrote another one.

its called The Free and is set in an anarchist revolution coinciding with the collapse of capitalism and climate chaos.

Its awaiting publication by PM Press
You can read it online HERE.

http://thefreeonline.wordpress.com/

Its brilliant   (though not coz I wrote it)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wrote, or rewrote another one.</p>
<p>its called The Free and is set in an anarchist revolution coinciding with the collapse of capitalism and climate chaos.</p>
<p>Its awaiting publication by PM Press<br />
You can read it online HERE.</p>
<p><a href="http://thefreeonline.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thefreeonline.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>Its brilliant   (though not coz I wrote it)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Great Novel of the People &#8212; Les Miserables, by Victor Hugo by tc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, all around, basically. I agree that Robert Newman&#039;s third novel Fountain... is pretty good overall. And vital in central ways. Wizard of the Crow is a great novel. I skimmed through Llosa&#039;s book on Les Miserables. Don&#039;t recall much that struck me, less that stuck with me. My thoughts on Newman&#039;s novel, and much else, here: http://apragmaticpolicy.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/the-future-of-imaginative-writing.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, all around, basically. I agree that Robert Newman&#8217;s third novel Fountain&#8230; is pretty good overall. And vital in central ways. Wizard of the Crow is a great novel. I skimmed through Llosa&#8217;s book on Les Miserables. Don&#8217;t recall much that struck me, less that stuck with me. My thoughts on Newman&#8217;s novel, and much else, here: <a href="http://apragmaticpolicy.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/the-future-of-imaginative-writing.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://apragmaticpolicy.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/the-future-of-imaginative-writing.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Great Novel of the People &#8212; Les Miserables, by Victor Hugo by Steve Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[have you read mario vargas llosa&#039;s recent book on les mis? is it any good? 
unfortunately I read the swiss cheese version of Les Miserables. after taking your course too. the signet edition was cheaper as well. damn. I was lured by the noble packaging of the penguin edition and the promise of a scholarly introduction. I shouldn&#039;t be such a sucker. mind you, there&#039;s a new translation out (this year I think). I thought the penguin version came across in a quite stilted and sometimes quite corny fashion ( which oddly contrasted with the harsh content), but the underlying message of the novel still shines through...
I&#039;ve just finished Wizard of the Crow. total dynamite! Like an epic Jonathan Swift. Much more savvy and astute than Midnight&#039;s children (and most of the &#039;magical realist&#039; novels I&#039;ve read). Nice to read a novel that uses style well but doesn&#039;t subordinate it to its message.
have you read &#039;the fountain at the center of the world&#039; by rob newman? he&#039;s a british comedian. it&#039;s not bad...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you read mario vargas llosa&#8217;s recent book on les mis? is it any good?<br />
unfortunately I read the swiss cheese version of Les Miserables. after taking your course too. the signet edition was cheaper as well. damn. I was lured by the noble packaging of the penguin edition and the promise of a scholarly introduction. I shouldn&#8217;t be such a sucker. mind you, there&#8217;s a new translation out (this year I think). I thought the penguin version came across in a quite stilted and sometimes quite corny fashion ( which oddly contrasted with the harsh content), but the underlying message of the novel still shines through&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ve just finished Wizard of the Crow. total dynamite! Like an epic Jonathan Swift. Much more savvy and astute than Midnight&#8217;s children (and most of the &#8216;magical realist&#8217; novels I&#8217;ve read). Nice to read a novel that uses style well but doesn&#8217;t subordinate it to its message.<br />
have you read &#8216;the fountain at the center of the world&#8217; by rob newman? he&#8217;s a british comedian. it&#8217;s not bad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Complicity of the New Yorker by John Caruso</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Caruso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great piece.  Chilling.  More than 3 quarter of a million people dead and counting (peoples who did not attack us) in revenge for fewer then 3 thousand deaths.  It sounds like the work of a sociopath.  If the US were a person and you told the story of a person who acted like that, our own laws would demand the death penalty for such an individual.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece.  Chilling.  More than 3 quarter of a million people dead and counting (peoples who did not attack us) in revenge for fewer then 3 thousand deaths.  It sounds like the work of a sociopath.  If the US were a person and you told the story of a person who acted like that, our own laws would demand the death penalty for such an individual.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The War Prayer by Mark Twain &#8211; video by Jus T. Aprole</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2009/09/09/the-war-prayer-by-mark-twain-video/#comment-15905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jus T. Aprole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicely done flim.  The expressions of the audience matched those of my students when we read this Twain piece earlier this semester.  Sort of WTF?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done flim.  The expressions of the audience matched those of my students when we read this Twain piece earlier this semester.  Sort of WTF?</p>
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		<title>Comment on View of District 9 by Kim Nicolini by noahshenk</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2009/08/28/view-of-district-9-by-kim-nicolini/#comment-15859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[noahshenk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent, I really do hope the world will understand what is wrong here, and maybe do something about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, I really do hope the world will understand what is wrong here, and maybe do something about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Great Review of Charlie Wilson&#8217;s War by Chalmers Johnson by OUH</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2008/01/07/great-review-of-charlie-wilsons-war-by-chalmers-johnson/#comment-15854</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OUH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was interviewed about the movie as General Zia was my Grandfather. Check it out @ http://omarulhaq.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/interview-w-asw-ouh/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interviewed about the movie as General Zia was my Grandfather. Check it out @ <a href="http://omarulhaq.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/interview-w-asw-ouh/" rel="nofollow">http://omarulhaq.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/interview-w-asw-ouh/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Maxwell Geismar on Norman Mailer (part two) by tc</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2007/03/18/maxwell-geismar-on-norman-mailer-part-two/#comment-15847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that &quot;Mailer&#039;s nonfiction is good enough to be compared with any American writer of the past fifty years.&quot; In fact, in my view, some of Mailer nonfiction compares well with some of the best writing of many types in US history and beyond. I value Mailer&#039;s writing in some ways that Geismar did not. On the other hand, I don&#039;t think Mailer&#039;s example is a great example for a lot of writers to follow, in many ways, some of which I&#039;ve noted, and some of which overlap with Geismar&#039;s serious and severe reservations.

Some of Mailer&#039;s writing would fit in the journal I co-edit, for example, Liberation Lit. Much would not. So much so that I can&#039;t say I can look especially to Mailer for progressive leadership in writing either in fiction or nonfiction, a type of more full, more humane, more vital writing that has been badly needed these many years, a mode of writing that Geismar came to be greatly concerned with as well...and not because it was some hobbyhorse but because of concern of the state of writing and the state of society, the world in general.

So in part here, our concerns are differently focused, and in part we simply disagree. I see Geismar and Mailer both as important writers, though the one has been buried and the other celebrated, and (in part ironically) I find Geismar&#039;s diverse and sometimes severe criticism of Mailer&#039;s work to be of lasting value...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that &#8220;Mailer&#8217;s nonfiction is good enough to be compared with any American writer of the past fifty years.&#8221; In fact, in my view, some of Mailer nonfiction compares well with some of the best writing of many types in US history and beyond. I value Mailer&#8217;s writing in some ways that Geismar did not. On the other hand, I don&#8217;t think Mailer&#8217;s example is a great example for a lot of writers to follow, in many ways, some of which I&#8217;ve noted, and some of which overlap with Geismar&#8217;s serious and severe reservations.</p>
<p>Some of Mailer&#8217;s writing would fit in the journal I co-edit, for example, Liberation Lit. Much would not. So much so that I can&#8217;t say I can look especially to Mailer for progressive leadership in writing either in fiction or nonfiction, a type of more full, more humane, more vital writing that has been badly needed these many years, a mode of writing that Geismar came to be greatly concerned with as well&#8230;and not because it was some hobbyhorse but because of concern of the state of writing and the state of society, the world in general.</p>
<p>So in part here, our concerns are differently focused, and in part we simply disagree. I see Geismar and Mailer both as important writers, though the one has been buried and the other celebrated, and (in part ironically) I find Geismar&#8217;s diverse and sometimes severe criticism of Mailer&#8217;s work to be of lasting value&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maxwell Geismar on Norman Mailer (part two) by marek breiger</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2007/03/18/maxwell-geismar-on-norman-mailer-part-two/#comment-15846</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To get back to Geismar&#039;s original argument: young writer&#039;s coming up in the 1960&#039;s (and early 70&#039;s) learned from reading Mailer the essence of --though it was not called that then--Creative Non Fiction.  Tom Wolfe and Hunter Thompson had their followers but Mailer was our hero.  Though one would never know it now, it was Mailer who was first to publicly castigate LBJ for the War in Vietnam. (Berkeley, May 1965) yet Mailer was able in his writings to humanize LBJ and even Nixon--while absolutely insisting on both men&#039;s culpability.  Mailer&#039;s undersanding of Mohammad Ali was also profound.  And in Prisoner of Sex Mailer had the courage to oppose feminism as religion.  I would invite anyone to read &quot;Superman comes to the Supermarket) on JFK, In the Red Light (on the REpublican convention in SF in 1964) not the Demo convention as I wrongly stated--and especially Armies of the Night, Miami and the Sietge of Chicago and St. George and Godfather(on Nixon&#039;s pre Watergate criminality--Mailer&#039;s St.George is Dickensian.  A host of writers --famous and not--learned from Mailer--from his use of metaphor and also for the courage of seeing the flaws even in his own side--the left.
         In addition-- to bring the discussion into our present century--Mailer was among the first American writers to attack George Bush following 9/11. Geismar was,at his best, a fine critic.  His attack on Armies of the Night, however, is not up to his standards and is historically wrong. Contrary to Geismar&#039;s write off--Mailer&#039;s nonfiction is good enough to be compared with any American writer of the past fifty years.  I invite anyone reading this to see for themselves and test their reading against Geismar&#039;s near absolute dismissal of Mailer&#039;s work. I will leave you to have the last word.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get back to Geismar&#8217;s original argument: young writer&#8217;s coming up in the 1960&#8242;s (and early 70&#8242;s) learned from reading Mailer the essence of &#8211;though it was not called that then&#8211;Creative Non Fiction.  Tom Wolfe and Hunter Thompson had their followers but Mailer was our hero.  Though one would never know it now, it was Mailer who was first to publicly castigate LBJ for the War in Vietnam. (Berkeley, May 1965) yet Mailer was able in his writings to humanize LBJ and even Nixon&#8211;while absolutely insisting on both men&#8217;s culpability.  Mailer&#8217;s undersanding of Mohammad Ali was also profound.  And in Prisoner of Sex Mailer had the courage to oppose feminism as religion.  I would invite anyone to read &#8220;Superman comes to the Supermarket) on JFK, In the Red Light (on the REpublican convention in SF in 1964) not the Demo convention as I wrongly stated&#8211;and especially Armies of the Night, Miami and the Sietge of Chicago and St. George and Godfather(on Nixon&#8217;s pre Watergate criminality&#8211;Mailer&#8217;s St.George is Dickensian.  A host of writers &#8211;famous and not&#8211;learned from Mailer&#8211;from his use of metaphor and also for the courage of seeing the flaws even in his own side&#8211;the left.<br />
         In addition&#8211; to bring the discussion into our present century&#8211;Mailer was among the first American writers to attack George Bush following 9/11. Geismar was,at his best, a fine critic.  His attack on Armies of the Night, however, is not up to his standards and is historically wrong. Contrary to Geismar&#8217;s write off&#8211;Mailer&#8217;s nonfiction is good enough to be compared with any American writer of the past fifty years.  I invite anyone reading this to see for themselves and test their reading against Geismar&#8217;s near absolute dismissal of Mailer&#8217;s work. I will leave you to have the last word.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maxwell Geismar on Norman Mailer (part two) by tc</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2007/03/18/maxwell-geismar-on-norman-mailer-part-two/#comment-15845</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.C. is a slur, against progressives, as it has been intended and used. There are plenty of types of dogmatisms or &quot;totalitarian&quot; thinking. The corporate and state establishments have long pushed plenty.

Did Geismar review much of anyone in his latter years? And did he devote much space to Mailer at all? He didn&#039;t live to see The Executioner&#039;s Song by several years. I think he would have greatly appreciated that book in which Mailer ditched the faults of the blowhard and the petty, etc. Executioner&#039;s Song is arguably Mailer&#039;s best book and it is also arguably not typical of Mailer&#039;s more grandiose, however accomplished, books that Geismar disdained.

And if Geismar in his latter years did not pay much attention to Mailer, who is to say he was wrong to do so? Not least since Geismar had turned to critiquing what he saw as more progressive, more vital authors, and quite reasonably had little patience for grandstanders like Mailer.

Look, in my view, Mailer&#039;s Armies of the Night is a brilliant book, a valuable one, but I&#039;m also very sympathetic to Geismar&#039;s disdain of it, because I think the book could have been greater if some of the comic ego had set itself aside for far greater stretches of time to analyze, inform, and explore more about the larger and more telling context of the March on Washington and related topics and situations. Other, greater books interrupt some of their flow to do exactly that, in my view, such as Orwell&#039;s Homage to Catalonia or Hugo&#039;s Les Miserables. These are books in which the authors don&#039;t ride too much too few of their various strengths. These works attempt more and achieve more and don&#039;t need to resort to the kind of cheap theatrics and the too superficial jumping, skimming, skipping shallows that partially undermine some of Mailer&#039;s valuable contributions. Geismar had antennae for serious limits in Mailer&#039;s work that in my view are worth paying attention to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.C. is a slur, against progressives, as it has been intended and used. There are plenty of types of dogmatisms or &#8220;totalitarian&#8221; thinking. The corporate and state establishments have long pushed plenty.</p>
<p>Did Geismar review much of anyone in his latter years? And did he devote much space to Mailer at all? He didn&#8217;t live to see The Executioner&#8217;s Song by several years. I think he would have greatly appreciated that book in which Mailer ditched the faults of the blowhard and the petty, etc. Executioner&#8217;s Song is arguably Mailer&#8217;s best book and it is also arguably not typical of Mailer&#8217;s more grandiose, however accomplished, books that Geismar disdained.</p>
<p>And if Geismar in his latter years did not pay much attention to Mailer, who is to say he was wrong to do so? Not least since Geismar had turned to critiquing what he saw as more progressive, more vital authors, and quite reasonably had little patience for grandstanders like Mailer.</p>
<p>Look, in my view, Mailer&#8217;s Armies of the Night is a brilliant book, a valuable one, but I&#8217;m also very sympathetic to Geismar&#8217;s disdain of it, because I think the book could have been greater if some of the comic ego had set itself aside for far greater stretches of time to analyze, inform, and explore more about the larger and more telling context of the March on Washington and related topics and situations. Other, greater books interrupt some of their flow to do exactly that, in my view, such as Orwell&#8217;s Homage to Catalonia or Hugo&#8217;s Les Miserables. These are books in which the authors don&#8217;t ride too much too few of their various strengths. These works attempt more and achieve more and don&#8217;t need to resort to the kind of cheap theatrics and the too superficial jumping, skimming, skipping shallows that partially undermine some of Mailer&#8217;s valuable contributions. Geismar had antennae for serious limits in Mailer&#8217;s work that in my view are worth paying attention to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maxwell Geismar on Norman Mailer (part two) by marek breiger</title>
		<link>http://apracticalpolicy.org/2007/03/18/maxwell-geismar-on-norman-mailer-part-two/#comment-15844</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geismar, at his best, worked as a critic  with the independence to come to his own conclusions. Some, I think, were off base as in his characterization of J.D. Salinger&#039;s Holden Caulfield as a &quot;sad screwed up little punk,&quot; but Geismar at his best was an independent thinker. 
Though he was a friend of Nelson Algren, he placed his bet, as Algren said, on Bill Stryon, casting friendship aside.His early assessment of Mailer was fair. His later was not. It was no longer an assessment but a feeling or emotion untested by Mailer&#039;s actual work beginning with &quot;Armies of the Night.&quot; Geismar wasn&#039;t the only one against the war. I remember thousands who protested. As a critic, Geismar may have felt like an outsider but in reality he took the easy way out. Mailer had multiple problems as a person and a writer but he knew his &quot;side&quot; was imperfect. It took more guts to be critical of aspects of Black Power or the Student Movement than to compare Eldridge Cleaver to a giant like Richard Wright. P.C. thinking is totalitarian thinking. It means making up one&#039;s mind without taking the time to look up evidence and come to one&#039;s own conclusion. Geismar&#039;s introduction to American Moderns gives a beautiful example of how an honest critic works in terms of drafting and seeing if ideas can be proven.  When Geismar worked to &quot;end the war&quot; and &quot;raise awareness of oppressive realities and progressive possiblilites...&quot; he left his critical hat at home. It&#039;s too easy to think &quot;God is on our side&quot; which is typical of not onlu of  the hard rightbut the hard left as well . Geismar judged Mailer without
going through the hard work of reading what you have awknowledged is a handful of powerful--I would say major efforts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geismar, at his best, worked as a critic  with the independence to come to his own conclusions. Some, I think, were off base as in his characterization of J.D. Salinger&#8217;s Holden Caulfield as a &#8220;sad screwed up little punk,&#8221; but Geismar at his best was an independent thinker.<br />
Though he was a friend of Nelson Algren, he placed his bet, as Algren said, on Bill Stryon, casting friendship aside.His early assessment of Mailer was fair. His later was not. It was no longer an assessment but a feeling or emotion untested by Mailer&#8217;s actual work beginning with &#8220;Armies of the Night.&#8221; Geismar wasn&#8217;t the only one against the war. I remember thousands who protested. As a critic, Geismar may have felt like an outsider but in reality he took the easy way out. Mailer had multiple problems as a person and a writer but he knew his &#8220;side&#8221; was imperfect. It took more guts to be critical of aspects of Black Power or the Student Movement than to compare Eldridge Cleaver to a giant like Richard Wright. P.C. thinking is totalitarian thinking. It means making up one&#8217;s mind without taking the time to look up evidence and come to one&#8217;s own conclusion. Geismar&#8217;s introduction to American Moderns gives a beautiful example of how an honest critic works in terms of drafting and seeing if ideas can be proven.  When Geismar worked to &#8220;end the war&#8221; and &#8220;raise awareness of oppressive realities and progressive possiblilites&#8230;&#8221; he left his critical hat at home. It&#8217;s too easy to think &#8220;God is on our side&#8221; which is typical of not onlu of  the hard rightbut the hard left as well . Geismar judged Mailer without<br />
going through the hard work of reading what you have awknowledged is a handful of powerful&#8211;I would say major efforts.</p>
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